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  London Bethelites Are Agitated!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a source has informed me that a relative who's in london bethel has said that a number of bethelites there are very uncomfortable and embarrassed because the branch has received "quite a few letters" querying why members of the governing body were wearing flashy rings and jewellery on some of the monthly broadcasts, but on the broadcast when the g.b.

  asked for more money from the congregations - their gold and jewellery was not on display!.

  will probably emerge one day wearing sackcloth, begging for yet more donations..

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  (Engaging sarcasm) I'm sure they have just followed the example in Acts Ch. 4 and sold their belongings to help the poor!!!

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  New songs at meetings

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today at the wt study one of the new songs was used.

  how has this been going in other congs - at my hall about two thirds had it on either tablets or phones with lyrics on or printed out, rest just stood looking blank.

  singing very poor.

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  Today at the wt study one of the new songs was used. How has this been going in other congs - at my hall about two thirds had it on either tablets or phones with lyrics on or printed out, rest just stood looking blank. Singing very poor. My view is - wt is a printing corporation which receives lots of cash from us each month (not from me personally) so why should I print out their songs. One which was used at the convention had an extra verse from when it first appeared - waste of time printing it out.

  Any murmuring from other congs?

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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  John Aquila 16 hours ago

  The governing body wants to thank everyone here on JW.com for all the ideas. The winner of the best idea will get one year of free Watchtower and Awake magazines autograph by one of the GB members.

  How do I delete my post (just in case)

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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  Saltheart Foamfollower

  Spanx are OK - as long as they've got the jw.org logo?

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  Making wise use of magazines letter

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all, just got this letter (sorry about formatting - anyone clean it up?).

  christian congregationof jehovahs witnessesthe ridgeway, london, nw7 1rn telephone: 020 8906 2211august 13, 2015to all congregationsre: making wise use of our magazinesdear brothers:millions of people worldwide appreciate the bible study aids that are provided by thefaithful and discreet slave.

  (matt.

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  Hi all, Just got this letter (sorry about formatting - anyone clean it up?)

  Christian Congregation
  of Jehovah’s Witnesses
  The Ridgeway, London, NW7 1RN Telephone: 020 8906 2211
  August 13, 2015
  TO ALL CONGREGATIONS
  Re: Making Wise Use of Our Magazines
  Dear Brothers:
  Millions of people worldwide appreciate the Bible study aids that are provided by “the
  faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) Much time, effort and funds are expended producing
  magazines and literature that helps many each year to “come to an accurate knowledge of truth.”
  —1 Tim. 2:4.
  It has, however, been noticed that in a number of congregations not all the magazines
  ordered are being used. In some instances, magazines have been allowed to build up, resulting in
  them being unused and ultimately wasted. What can be done to avoid wasting our valuable
  literature?
  When the current method of supplying magazines was introduced, this instruction was
  given: “Publishers should take only the number of magazines needed for the current week of
  activity in the ministry, not for the entire month.” Are we following that direction, or do we find
  that we are taking more than we need for the week? Please can we ask that all in the congregation
  give this matter careful consideration so as to reduce the amount of waste. A very large quantity of
  magazines are printed in many languages and it is hoped that these can all be used in the
  evangelizing work. Also, could we make more use of our electronic devices, helping interested
  persons use the jw.org website?
  What action can be taken if large quantities of magazines have built-up in the congregation
  or in our personal supply? First, the elders will make sure that the order is reduced immediately.
  However, even old magazines are still of value to the reader and a special effort should be made to
  place them with the public. Some suggestions of how this can be accomplished can be found in the
  March 2014 edition of Our Kingdom Ministry, page 3.
  We want our literature to achieve its intended purpose of reaching the heart of those wishing
  to come to know our heavenly Father. Therefore, may we all ensure that none of our literature is
  wasted and that we continue to make the best use of these valuable gifts from our generous God.
  —Jas. 1:17.
  Please be assured of our warm brotherly love and best wishes.
  Your brothers,
  PS to the body of elders:
  Please read out the above letter to the congregation at the first Service Meeting after receipt.
  Thereafter, it should be placed on the noticeboard.
  Re: Making Wise Use of Our Magazines
  August 13, 2015
  Page 2
  The following part of this PS should not be read to the congregation or placed on the noticeboard.
  It is the responsibility of the elders in each congregation to keep a regular check on the flow of magazines so that dedicated funds are not wasted by overprinting. For example, while taking part in public witnessing, many publishers are commendably imitating the methods shown on jw.org and this has reduced the amount of magazines being placed in this activity. However, this calls for a close monitoring of the magazines being used in this form of preaching. If it is found that many magazines are left over at the end of the month then this should be reflected in the congregation order and a reduction should be made. It is very easy to adjust the order either up or down on jw.org, but bear in mind it takes two to three months for the change to take effect.
  Therefore, please can we ask that all service overseers and magazine coordinators immediately and thoroughly re-appraise the magazine order for their congregation(s). If it is found that a number of magazines are being left over each month then a reduction of the congregations order can immediately be implemented.—See the direction in Literature and Magazine Request Guidelines (S-56) chapter 7, paragraph 4.

  SF
  
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  How Far Apart Were Your Legs?

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.

  fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.

  a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.

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  With regard to transcripts - brief notes are taken during the meeting but are supposed to be given to the chairman at the end who will destroy them after everything (eg possible appeal, form submitting) is finished. So there shouldn't be anything stored in cong files - there isn't in mine, but some probably do.

  I have been on JCs and have never found it remotely necessary to go beyond asking them to put in their own words what happened. Part of the problem is that the only ones who know what goes on in a JC are the three elders and the accused. Other elders & COs etc don't know, so it is another case of the way the borg have arranged things allowing for horrific practices to happen as outlined earlier. Yes, individual elders are to blame, but so is the organization that has "trained" them.

  Can I just add my deepest sympathies to all who have been affected.

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  Our hall is asking for money...

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i guess the branch isn't happy with the amount being sent each month since we are way lower than our loan amount.

  we now have to another financial survey to see the max amount that can be given.

  it is "encouraged" for all to be in attendance and give much forethought and consideration to the amount you can donate each month.

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  I don't know how to post the original, but here is the text from a letter just received in the UK

  Christian Congregation
  of Jehovah’s Witnesses
  The Ridgeway, London, NW7 1RN Telephone: 020 8906 2211
  TAA:TAB June 8, 2015
  TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS
  Re: Meeting the Needs of the Organization
  Dear Brothers:
  We know you will have enjoyed the May 2015 programme of JW Broadcasting. How
  encouraging to hear of all the current projects being undertaken in connection with advancing
  Kingdom interests! Our attention was drawn to our giving support in various ways, such as our
  time, energy and material resources. The admonition at Proverbs 3:9 to “honor Jehovah with your
  valuable things, with the firstfruits of all your produce” was emphasized. Yes, we should give our
  very best to Jehovah as our priority. The Scriptural basis for supporting pure worship with material
  contributions was thus highlighted.
  Over the past year a very positive response has been received by congregations making
  donations of funds surplus to local operating expenses and implementing a regular monthly
  donation to Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide. We warmly commend all
  who have responded so generously to this new arrangement for funding Kingdom Hall and
  Assembly Hall construction around the world.
  We note that some congregations still continue to hold funds in excess of their necessary
  operating expenses, either in a local bank account or on deposit with the branch office. Additionally
  some congregations are not making a monthly contribution in support of Kingdom Hall and
  Assembly Hall construction worldwide.
  In harmony with the jw.org broadcast for May 2015, and the guidance provided in our letter
  dated March 29, 2014, regarding Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall
  construction worldwide, we encourage you to follow these guidelines and send all such dedicated
  funds, surplus to operating expenses, for the Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction
  worldwide.
  We are confident of Jehovah’s blessing on these arrangements as we do all that we can to
  praise and elevate his great name and universal sovereignty.
  Please accept our appreciation and thanks in advance for the cooperation and hard work of
  you brothers in helping care for Christ’s belongings.
  Your brothers,

  SF
  
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  Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

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  Here's what I think they could do. Allow fellowship at the Kingdom Hall but not elsewhere. From their point of view it would mean they were still in control (You can see your grandchildren - just attend meetings!!!!!) but could tell the authorities that they aren't splitting up families etc. The talk would probably go something like this "EVIDENTLY when Jesus said observe the lillies of the field, he meant you can associate with disfellowshipped ones at the Kingdom Hall" (Note - I'm being sarcastic)

  Their recent change in emphasis about the prodigal son could have prepared the way for this.

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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  ..........and just in case you missed it, the cartoon will be shown again a week or so before your convention (if the elders remember)

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  UK Branch visit 2015

  by tamagotchi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone know anything about it?

  apparently it's going to be broadcast live nationally to all the congregations this saturday

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  The programme has just come through:-

  Programme for Special Meeting
  Branch Visit
  Saturday April 25, 2015
  Mill Hill Kingdom Hall, Broadcast to all Congregations in Britain and Ireland
  Chairman: Dennis Dutton
  1.00 p.m. Opening Song D. Dutton
  Prayer D. Dutton
  1:05 p.m. “If God is For Us, Who Will Be Against Us?” J. Larson
  1:45 p.m. Summary of The Watchtower Article: S. Hardy
  “Preparing the Nations for
  ‘The Teaching of Jehovah’”
  2:15 p.m. Song No. 104 and Announcements D. Dutton
  2:25 p.m. Branch Report and Experiences P. Gillies
  2:45 p.m. Talk M. Sanderson
  3:45 p.m. Concluding Song D. Dutton
  Concluding Prayer M. Sanderson

  Of note is that Mark Sanderson is the GB member not Sam Heard. Also, Paul Gillies has an item.

  SF